Bits take space. So in order to have DVD2SVCD calculate a higher AVG bitrate you need to find more. There are several ways to do this. 1. Increase the number of cd's used. 2. Lower the audio bitrate, but this will reduce the quality of the audio 3. Increase the size of the CD used. You can either try to overburn or use 90 or 99 minute cd's. Keep in mind that this requires your DVD player and burner to support overburned discs. Isn't doing this testing fun. Mark