hands on experience; current capture card king ???

it seems i have fried my Capture card so now i can spend the money on a good one. i currently capture games for my team off 8mm tapes, but also capture off VHS tapes for ppl and edit them and then put them on CD (at a small charge) i also want to invest in a DVD-RW and convert VHS to DVD etc and make a little business on the side out of this... but anyway, i am looking at the LEADTEK WINFAST TV2000 FLYVIDEO TV/TUNER PIXEL VIEW PLAY TV HD what have been prove to be the best bang for buck?? any other cards i should be aware of ? suggestions, ideas, experiences and thoughts all welcome thanx

Erm, i heard the ATI TVWonder VE was the best... ... only joking:D .. But seriously, i heard good things about the FLYCap series, looking at one myself, if you get one, besure to give us a shout, i'd love to know from ANYONE who has had a go with them. dar1us

i went with the Winfast. Great software, great viewing qualtiy, but capturing (which is my primary concern) isnt up to scratch :( been talking on the website and people are liking the flyvideo 3000 (with the phillips saa7138 chip). So i am thinking i will buy that and sell my Winfast off. the MSI with the new 10-bit chip intrigues me, but i read the software for it so far sux! and dunno how well a new works with 3rd oparty apps (ie VD) any news on that card???

i cant find anywhere to buy that card (Fly Video 3000) in the UK!!?! Someone help me out, all i keep finding is places in AUS. grr dar1us

For a list of TV-cards based on the Philips saa 713x-chip (like flyvideo3000) go have a look at This is also the home site of the most sophisticated software written for this chip. Great for watching TV, but for capture I recommend VirtualVCR, because its audio resampling function solves all synch problems. I have a flyvideo3000 and I am very happy with it. Here in Germany you can find cards with the philips chipset mainly as special offers in discount supermarkets like Aldi and Plus. Contrary to what you might expect, elta, the German importer of Flyvideo cards, offers decent driver support.

@igor, how much did you pay for it That website is down oh, and one thing, thats the only truely important thing i learnt on my week in germany, u can pick things like that up at the supermarkt:) - not here, but u can buy crappy clothes, kids stuff mainly, and music.. dar1us# thx anyhow

@dar1us sorry for the website being down. I had tested it and it was still working then. Try instead. About the price of those cards here: Aldi has got one on offer (starting this Wednesday) for 49,99 Euros. Edit: Try the old address again! It's up again. The url from this post contains an older version of the software.

found a supplier in Sydney that will be selling the Polink Xcapture card thats based on the new Conexant CX23881 10-bit chip for only AU$105 thats cheaper then the Winfast and same as the FlyVideo. i know software support will be limited, but it will get there and i can get high quality captures using something like iuVCR anyone know more bout this new card ???

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hmmm i leaning towards the FlyVideo 3000 Phillips SAA7134 chip (9-bit i believe) but i am waiting for an email fromProlink bout there PixelView PlayTV HD card that uses the CX23881 chip. I want to know it if captures in native PAL res (768x576)